This week, I'm joined by Urban Hafner for a wide-ranging discussion on management roles, autism, programming organization structure, sci-fi and fantasy books, programming books, the reasons behind high developer turnover, and bass guitar.

• The Pragmatic Programmer
• Accelerate: The Science of Lean Software and Dev Ops
• Cynefin
• Expanding Beyond Podcast
• Urban Hafner.com
• Urban Hafner on Twitter